Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

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Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by fmsoloist » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:09 am

I just need a simple delay pedal that will offer me 1, maybe 2 modest sounds in a footswitch. The stereo model of the Boss dd-20 and Eventide Timefactory are nice, but maybe a little elaborate. The Boss isnt true bypass and sucks your tone, which is probobly why its 175 bucks and the Eventide seems way to over-the-top for my needs. I already have a nice TC SCF that sounds great with my Roadking. I dont think I should have to pay $399.99 for a decent delay with true bypass. I know the keeley stuff is great. He mods the dd-3 and Ibanez AD7 delays. I play a fairly modern genre and am not looking for tape echo sounds or slapbacks. Does the 300ms limit on the AD9 take it out of the running? The reveiws on the keeley DD-3 are slightly less convincing. Does anyone have experience with that pedal/know of one for sale? Can anyone recommend a reasonable delay that won't thin the sound out of my guitar and amp? I like it to be as simple as possible.
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by ketiov » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:37 am

I heard the MXR Carbon Copy get good reviews in a lot of places. It's true bypass from what I read on Dunlops website.

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Post by DeFrag » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:09 pm

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by lyman » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:22 pm

Re: the boss dd-20 sucking tone....I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but if you're concerned about stuff like that there IS a workaround: if you have an amp with a parallel effects loop you can put the delay in the loop, set output B of the pedal to "wet only" and blend in only the echoes. That way your dry sound isn't going through the pedal at all. And when the pedal is off, no sound is coming out of output B.
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by fmsoloist » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:51 pm

thats a great suggestion. I really utilized the various effect loop options when I had the G major, but in the interest of simplicity I'd like too keep just one chord running from my pedal board to my amp, otherwise I'll have to run a snake to my amp and hook up each input everytime I play. If I was in a bigger band and I could hire a tech I could handle a more elaborate setup. I did actually just come across the mxr carbon copy that was suggested and I picked up a MCATMODS Deeelay true Bypass pedal. Seemed to get great reviews and the builder was great in answering my questions. I'll experiment with the delay in the loop anyway espectially recording as that is the ideal location, but for gigging Ill just take advantage of the true bypass and keep it simple
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by prspastor » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:22 pm

+1 on the MXR Carbon Copy
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by bimbosbones » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:15 pm

I use a custom delay pedal built by CMATMODS, this is the best delay pedal I have ever heard. I tried the Carbon Copy and this pedal beats it hands down. I ordered it from his ebay store.
Here is the info from ebay.
This is a new Delay pedal that I hand build. I use only the best parts for great tone and reliability. I use lots of care when building a pedal we are a small company that strive for a great product for the working musician. This delay pedal sounds like the great analog pedals that we all love but it is digital with the same high end roll off that an analog pedal has. This lets your natural tone come through it is really warm and musical. This is version 2 this is a new model with over 600ms of delay time and the case is powdercoated and screen printed for great looks that last a life time.

I use parts like double sided circuit boards with plated through holes like the military uses, military grade wiring, EH 3pdt true bypass switch, 1% metal film resistors for tighter tolerances and lower noise, panasonic poly film caps, Xicon electrolitic caps, Neutrik jacks, Alpha pots, Davies knobs and powder coated enclosures. This all adds up to a great pedal with great tone and reliability. Goto my site www.cmatmods.com for mp3s and more information. This is brand new in the box. Thanks and happy bidding!

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by fmsoloist » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:51 pm

Yes I love my CMAT MODS Deeelay pedal. Its extremely well built and the sound quality is really amazing. It allows me to get just the sound Im looking for from a basic delay pedal without sucking my tone. The only shorcmings are it is noticably noisy (adds some noise while on) as well as it contributes to the overall noise of the signal chain of (5 now) pedals in front of my amp. So I might be in the market for a noise reduction pedal now. The hiss when I open up my amp is not tolerable. Im quite sur its the sum of my pedals being amplified by the front of my amp, so not to start a new topic, bu tthe noise red/sup should go at the endo of my chain right. my guitar is noisless and I think if I put a noise pedal in the front the pedals would just make nise after it.

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by bimbosbones » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:23 pm

I don't get much noise from pedals, but I do run a MXR Smart Gate at the end of my chain. I also run my Chorus, Delay and Smart Gate through the Effects Loop. Volume, Cry Baby and Boss Tuner through the front.

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by fleeced » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:48 pm

Just ordered the MXR Carbon copy (before reading this post!) ... as I was after a true bypass delay - and wanted analogue.

Glad to see the thumbs up from people.

Have a Dual rec - on which the tone definitely changes with effects loop on ... no matter what the blend of send / receive is. Had a DD6 before, a digital reverb and CH1 chorus in the loop. The CH1 is also going in favour of an analogue man mini-chorus pedal with a wet/dry mix control and true bypass. The CH1 definitely sucks tone when not being used.

As the chorus pedal has wet/dry blend i'm thinking of putting it straight in instead of in the loop. Has anyone got any views on whether it's best in the effetcs loop ?
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by MF » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:29 am

DeFrag wrote:+1 on the MXR
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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by MrMason » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:21 pm

I'll add another +1 to the MXR Carbon copy. I'll also add, though, that I don't think that it's true bypass. What makes me think that it isn't is that I accidentally forgot to plug the power up to it, while it was in bypass mode, and my amp had no sound. I'm pretty sure that a true bypass pedal would still pass your signal in bypass mode with no power to the pedal. It doesn't seem to suck tone, but I don't think it's true bypass. I had a Marshall Echohead that sounded great with my Carvin amps, but it seemed unnatural sounding with my Express 5:50; now I use the Carbon Copy, VERY nice pedal for the price.

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by fmsoloist » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:32 pm

yes I think that is the case. Im also noticing, along with some new noise I didn't notice/wasn't there before, that my TC SCF pedal doesn't allow the signal to pass when the plug is out/power is off, so it may not be true bypass after all either

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Re: Delay-true bypass pedal suggestions

Post by lyman » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:47 pm

yeah, the Carbon Copy has been getting plenty of +1's in the various online guitar forums i've checked out. not a bad price either. i used an old mxr delay pedal, the big green one that is the same size as the mxr flanger, in a studio session not too long ago. it sounded awesome, especially for self-oscillation feedback effects. twas a bit noisy. spacey!
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